Not for the faint of heart/Sensitive [offensive thread]

so heres something contraversial:
PETA is sexist, hundreds of ads like this show that much:

*PUKES* Sorry, I think that proves to me I'm gay. Thats so disgusting. It does seem sexist.

oh? what about this?

or this



obviosly I cant show must of them as they are pornagraphic

*Pukes for an hour* Holy Poop. Those are disgusting. And stupid.

there there... so are the people behind PETA, they have a mission statement thats basicaly a good thing but there run by a loonitick

Being bi myself I can tell you that none of those women were atractive to me

The second girl looked like a slut.
And like the people on Sonic Team?

thats the point, it projects a negitive image on women!!! ><
and yes unfortunately though I LOVED sonic growing up its sad to see it turn to crap

Hehe, leperous retards. At least, thats how Yachtzee refers to them.

you know of GOD?

((note: Yachtzee is god))

Yes, I do. Thanks to my completely heterosexual friend. He showed me Yachtzee's Bioshock review, and now I frequently quote him.

hmm I needed to stop quoteing him, Iggy says I do it to much in real life

Hehe, my bro says the same thing.

hmm how nice for you well we might wanna get on topic again

Hmm. Ofensive/controversial huh? How about... ABORTION! I'm against. Not just because of the Church, but if you are stupid enough to have ***, and you get a baby, live with it!

hmm we can have a nice argument then ^^ as Iggeh will tell you I love a good argument and it makes my borning lonley little existance fun if only for a little while so in the spirit of things:

fetuses have a heartbeat but then again so do tapeworms, inesects and every other living thimg more complex than a few cells

if you think it is murdur then what about the death penalty and all the wars we have going on, is it not hypocritical to opose one method of killing and not another? if you can even call a fetus life is it not the greatest act of mercy to return it to "god" rather than send it in to a cold and unforgiving world where it will not be loved and cannot be cared for?

if for example a 14 year old is raped by her father and the incest baby would kill her if it were born from her underdeveloped body and tests show that it would be a mentaly and phisicaly disabled child with no one to take care of it is it not the ethical thing to do to adbort the fetus and save the poor girl? are you going to look her in the face and say that her life means nothing comapred to a unborn "child" that would never be able to read wright or live on its own?

I will agree with you on one note: abortion is a last resort, birth control IS what sould be done in stead if not abstanace and Im not saying that abortion should be done because its convenent but rather because it would destroy an unproaired woman to have and be foreced to carry a baby

lets face it, no one likes adopting children, they would rather have their own right now hundreds of unwanted babys are alone in orphaniages across the world YOU ARE ADING TO THAT PROBLEM when you illegalize abortion as a choice between a woman and her doctor Id say spay or nuter your teenager but thats awefull

if your telling me abortion is unethical than other bodily freedoms must also be unethical or you would be a hypocrite

sorry dont be ofended, I really like you and Im not trying to piss you off or anything

Ohh shiny, you're good.

First off, I don't agree with EVRYTHING the Church says.

1) Good point. Can't counter you there.

2) I never said I thought it was murder, but then again I do think it is murder. I think the death penalty is terrible, but if you are guilty of killing a hundred families or you orchistrated a massive genocide (AKA Hitler/Hussein), then you deserve to die. And to your second arguement, why not even give the fetus/baby a chance?

3) The father should be beaten and imprisoned if that happened. There are circumstances where it should be allowed, like when the baby would be horribly disfigured, the mother definitely could not support it, or if it would kill the mother. That is a different case.

4) You assist my personal case here.

5) Agreed, I do not think abortion should be illegalized, but also, it should not be used excessively, like it is already.

6) Unnecessary abortion is unethical, freely used capital punishment is unethical, and that is where I stand.

And no problem, very well thought-out arguement.

geneticcaly speaking humans are over fifty pervcent similar to bananas so really the entire "they are alive" argument falls somewhere around the vegitaryian argument, eggs are for baby chickens after all and Im certainly not going to stop eating them just because they could have been used to create life

the main focus of that statement is that the fetus is for the most part innocent, however the basis of the ENTIRE argument is weather or not the fetus is or is not technicaly a human life in the womb, as it is not fully developed it can be argued that it is a lower life form, it is incapable of most senseces and thought or consiousness of any kind, it is devoid of identity and even devoid of a brain by the time it would legaly be aborted it resembles a tadpole much more than a human being so really the only remaining quaral would be that it would eventualy become a human being, the fundemental diffreance between a baby and a fetus is that the fetus is not aware of itself or its suroundings, it is not consious or alive and is therefore (so we belieave) inhuman

thats what abortion is for and its already quite limited, many states do not alow it as is

a token of sportsmenship, the same kind you have disaplayed, thats why this is not a flame war

unfortunatly many people with that view ARE for illegalization which is the problem

if your objection is human life being wasted consider this: for every american aborted child there is at leist thirty children somewhere else in the world dieing slowly because they were born in a place that couldent handle the extra life or being abused because they were born in an unsafe environment, maybe its because Im a pessimist but it would be beter if there were no such chicldren, Im not saying the solution is to kill them but rather keep more from being born

So you would be against partial birth abortion?

hmmmmmmm loaded question

Um... the arguement is over human life, the Church doesn't care about close genetic neighbors, and same arguement against your statement about chicken eggs.

I think that as soon as it has a cell, it's living, and if it becomes human in less than 100 years, it counts as human.

Well that pretty much reduces it to WHEN they can abort, it would have to be right away, if it was because they didnt want a child.

Oh and your last statement: good point, but that makes chastity even more important. It's not those countries faults they are under developed. It's the fault of the European powers that attacked those countries and used their people as essential slaves.

And thank you. You a truely fierce debater.

Partial birth abortion takes place after 5 months, the baby is very much alive. How they do it is nasty at best, they go in and pull the baby out by sepersting the body from the head, and leaving the head inside, then they extract tissue from the neck and then go back in for the head.

For or against?

Fully against. Dear God!

Oh, except to save the mother. Only exception.

ahh the goood old days "nausatgic simle" back when saws were used and men were men such a turly fanatsic age THE GREAT AGE! jk but in all seriosness its gruesome but so are MOST oparations and I happan to know a woman whos going to have to sit in a bed for THREE MONTHS and not move AT ALL just to have a 70% shot at survival because shes pregnant and another woman on wellfair who cant rase her child that she wasnt ready to have do to rape

well if its the churches argument your suporting than really no forms of irth control are alowed because sperm is considered alive
semen is one cell, semen becomes a human in less than 100 years under the right conditions, is male mastubation murdur? if so your gonna have to arest a LOT of guys I mean where EXACTLY is the line?

of course it regluates WHEN the debate is not over when its over IF it is alowed to happan which your side of the argument, traditionaly refuses to alow

fact: the popluation increase in under developed nations (along with the spread of aids) is much much higher in pooer nations

umm... have I just made an @$$ of myself again?