fenikkusu fenikkusu no mi

a phoenix is a animal and minotaurs elves and centaurs are humanoids

...a human is a mammal, a mammal -is- an animal.

Actually, after hearing what redmerv wanted, he could just say a bird with red, orange, yellow, white and blue feathers shining with a firelike aspect.

nah red orange is good enough just a phoenix with some fire power but not being able to shoot it like ace is or being able to change into fire only being able creating fire around his body

...Still too much dude, the colored bird is cool..the actual fire powers while being able to shape change...Like Mimiu said it opens far too many doors we dont want opened.

And sadly enough, every time we close a door a window does not open. Try to keep the zoan part, zoan-like, not logia esque

The fact Chopper exists proves humanoid fruits exist, so by saying this is possible, is saying we can have a ogre zoan or a goblin zoan

chopper was a reindeer who ate a human human fruit wich allows a animal to get human inteligence and form

No, actually he was smart before.

The fruit's major strength is that it gives it's user the ability to turn into a human and a human hybrid. In the case of Chopper however, it has given him much more. The fruit has given him the ability to understand and communicate human language. The fruit has also given Chopper the ability to perceive concepts such as medicine that a normal reindeer wouldn't normally comprehend.

It gives him the ability to speak, but it didn't give him the ability to create fire to surround his body or something that rediculous. Just because you turn into a bird doesn't mean your Johnny storm.

lol sorry it wasnt the meaning to be op just a phoenix

a phoenix doesn't have the power to create fire, that's just what video games did to it... (it is still a myth though)

wow I checked this mourning, went to school and come back to find 3 pages of disscussion about this fruit

anyway

Fire manipulation + Bird form + flight + becoming fire + IMMORTAL = a litttle much dontcha think?

he said it wouldn't be being immortal, and that's not even what it really was. (more like many reincarnations in the same form)

Except he'd remember the past events, meaning even if he reincarnated, he'd know all the old moves, and so on, meaning his age would have little to do with his power, MEANING, he'd basically be immortal

Just because you remember doesn't mean you can do something... I remember beating my older brother in a fight, but it doesn't happen anymore... he would have a new body which makes him weaker...

Psyically...not fruitly

And even then, a baby could be easily burried underground and stay there forever, to weak to ever get out...

...no comment.

I know that is kinda messed up... but my point still stands. Also, they would have to age again, meaning they'd only have two or so lives..

...Phoniex's can't die of age.

no, but if you were a baby you'd still have to grow up.

How would having to grow up limit their lives to two?

can you really play as a baby? no, they would need to age before they are really worth playing again...